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$50- 75 per page/ negotiable – or hourly at the same rate (amounts to about the same price): Let me give you an example (Residential). I used to work for a very small, very high end residential millwork shop. He had never produced his own shop drawings. He just used the architectural set and went from there; talking to everyone and drawing by hand – you know, no “engineering department.” So here’s how it worked. The architectural set, obviously, is inadequate for what’s needed for signing off on the woodwork and cabinets. It’s sufficient for me to produce plan views and elevations with enough sections and details (and maybe schedules of finishes and hardware). Or, to produce a set of drawings that can be laid-out for production once everything TBD was finally red-lined on my drawings. That is, my drawings were enough to move approval forward. I’ve done a few jobs now (shop drawing submittals for a whole project), so that I think this is a good way of doing a submittal set. I don’t have to have every answer to every question. (And there might be Change Orders. So you don’t want a full blown set with every single thing detailed anyway.) I leave dimensions VIF (Verify In Field) where I have to. I say, “Finish to match sample” instead of saying “Finish TBD.” The point is, I thought I needed to have all the information that was needed for the shop to get started on boxes once my drawings where approved. Now I leave a lot of that up to the Project Manager (or the shop owner, in this case) when I have to, so that he can finish getting every detail ready for production. The point is, I can produce a set of drawings that are good enough to sign off on. Now, on the other hand, I usually have access to the job site; I talked to everyone: contractors, owners of the house, and anyone I want access to if I find a problem like moving an electrical box out of the way, or some door casing that runs into a counter or casework. The problem is, I feel like I need information that you aren’t going to get just from copying the architectural drawing and submitting it like it’s ready to be laid-out for a cabinetmaker. And if there is a problem, casework might need to be redesigned in some acceptable manner. I know that’s the job of the PM, but I’d rather do this myself. I’m doing the drawing! So, again, I think I can do a set of shop drawings, but I would feel the need to see the site and to correct issues. My drawing would just be wrong if the cabinets showed up on site and the door casing had to be cut around the counter’s edge. Now we haven’t talked about how each shop has there own way of making cabinets: dowels or fasteners, box-base or feet adjusters, how they want scribes, etc. It all makes a difference in how I do my sections. But I will work with whatever shop you pick. They will get drawings specific to their typical shop fabrication. Take an example of a $17,000 job: If 20% of the total job is the engineering part (eg. 20% of 17,000): layout (cut-list), field measure, submittal shop drawing, and the project management (just for the shop drawing part of PM). I think you would get 6% of the job for the submittal drawing. It would be $1000 for a set of drawings (just the drafting), add another $600 for a PM to work on it with red-lines (4% of 17,000), then you would get a project priced at $17,000. And 10% for the rest of the engineering. That might be enough for a kitchen and a bath with sections and details. That would be $75 per page for 13 pages counting red-lines (but not adding for Change Orders of course). You really need that approved shop drawing ready for cabinetmakers to produce a layout for the shop once it was approved. For that you need COMMUNICATION with the PM. Or you need the kind of access to the site and principle people that I’m suggesting. I would do that part myself which would add the 4% in the example above. |